Retitled due to comment spam

UPDATE: For some reason this post has become a magnet for comment spam. I've had to reject a comment just about every week since February...

The family had a pretty good Christmas, Grandma Joan came down to stay for the holiday, the tree was thoroughly looted by all and everybody got stuff that the wanted. Or needed. The following fits in both categories:

Ideal for the hobbyist toy soldier painter, this is on wheels so it can be moved, has lots of short drawers and the top two have eighteen compartment dividers. Plus the fold outs can be used to add workspace. I found it at Fred Meyer while killing time when Jen was singing Christmas carols with the Greenwood Players. Had to have it.

Speaking of had to have it, I found this at the same time. It's a little on the small size for 25mm, but it should convert nicely to a Space:1889 light screw galley. Add a Nordenfeldt and some crew and the propeller off a balsa and rubber band plane and we have air support at last....

It Can't Be Said Better - XXII

Jacob Hacker, godfather of the public option:

The public plan has been at the core of the health debate for a number of reasons: (1) it will significantly reduce costs; (2) it will provide broad, transparent coverage at an affordable price, setting a benchmark private insurers will be pressed to follow; (3) it won’t be in the business of denying or delaying needed care to people with costly conditions or shifting excessive costs onto them; and (4) it’s a vehicle for driving delivery and payment system reforms that private plans have proven unable and/or unwilling to do. Since we live in a democracy, it also seems relevant that (5) the public plan has been consistently popular with Americans (and doctors, according to a recent survey in the New England Journal of Medicine), despite the unrelenting false attacks on it.

STOP!

"Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8"

Let his days be few;

and let another take his office.

But the next line is:

Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow

You are praying for the assassination of a fellow Christian, the sitting President of the United States. However you may disagree with his politics, this is the wrong way to pray for change in the country which produced Timothy McVeigh.

Stop it. Respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ demands it.

New work

In the couple of weeks after Game Day and Before Tactical Solutions Gaming, I finished up the All-Aerial Hordes of the Things Army. The army list is 2 Aerial Heroes (6 AP each), 5 stands of fliers (2 AP Each) and and 2 stands of Lurkers (1 AP each). Alternately, the army can be fielded as 1 Aerial Hero (6 AP) and 1 Magician (4 AP), 5 stands of fliers (2 AP) and 2 stands of Beasts (2 AP). You could also make it just the two aerial heroes and 6 stands of fliers, since everybody but the AH's has wings... The second configuration would give a little better bad going options.

The Full Army.

The alternate Beasts or Lurkers, there are two stands of these.

The command stand with a leftover medieval oriflamme, Duc of Orleans, IIRC. I used it because it has a swan (wings, y'know) on it....

The Female Aerial Hero, or alternately a Magician. The figure is from the Anima Tactics figures, painted per the drawing supplied with the figure.

The Male Aerial Hero, again from Anima Tactics, painted per the drawing supplied with the figure, because I lack imagination.... ;o)

Tactical Solutions Gaming 2009

I've been painting and basing some miscellaneous new stuff, of which I have not yet taken photos to share over the last few weeks, getting ready for Tactical Solutions Gaming 2009 which happened October 9, 10 and 11 in Spokane. I loaded up some new music on my MP3 player for the trip and when I set off, the MP3 player randomly queued up Beethoven's Ode to Joy.... Auspicious, no?

I had a boatload of fun playing and presenting games and spent a lot of time photo documenting the event. Herewith, some favorite photos:

Mark Rounds awaits the first gamer of the day....

An example of Mike Clinton's new Caproni 3 engine bombers for Watch Your 6.

The gaggle of Caproni's thunder overhead under assault by German fighters.

Tank columns from the big multiplayer Flames of War on Sunday.

A failed assault from the Flames of War Tournament. First the tanks got popped, then the follow up infantry assault got equally massacred.... I suppose you had to be there to see it unfold. Gruesomely.

Zulu Hordes vs. Victorian British in Hordes of the Things. This is the second wave of Zulus. After killing at least the every stand in the Zulu army at least once and watching the new hordes forming up to come across the table yet a third time, the British commander withdrew in disgust.

I don't think I had any fun this weekend. I don't think.... ;o)

Yes, it is, and you can't defend it.

Rep Roy Blount of MO, running for Senate, speaking at the Values Voters Summit yesterday:

"Almost from the day the first ball was hit on this golf course something happened they didn't anticipate: monkeys would come running out of the jungle and then grab the golf balls.
(pause for chuckles) And if it was in the fairway, they might throw it in the rough. And if it was in the rough, they might throw it -- they might throw it back at you! (pause for mild laughs) And I can point to great and long detail about how many things they tried to eliminate the monkey problem, but they never got it done. So finally for this golf course and this golf course only, they passed a rule and the rule was, you have to play the ball where the monkey throws it. (pause for laughs) And that is the rule in Washington all the time. (pause for huge laughs)"

Just how is this joke in this context NOT racist!!!! Most of the opposition to President Obama is not racist my left buttock cheek....

It can't be said better - XXI

Health care reform doesn't have to be complicated....

There are well working systems in the world for about half of what we pay now. Copy one.

Voter at Talking Points Memo, comment 9/16/09, 5:51 PM

Just Another Brick in the Wall

Clever

Why I like Hordes of the Things

Where else could you see this:

It Can't Be Said Better - XIX

Robert Farley at Lawyers, Guns and Money makes the obvious point....

None of this seems to get counted when people talk about wait times, but believe it or not, the 16 hours you spent on the phone trying to organize your health care is 16 hours that you don't get back. Moreover, the experience has made me even more unreceptive to warnings about the bureaucratization of health care; I've dealt with so many bureaucrats from so many different organizations that giving all of their jobs to one single government bureaucrat tasked with determining how useful my life is would seem like sweet relief...

Farley is young, not so far out of college, been through a couple of job changes and recently become a proud parent. Sort of like the average successful American. Read the details of Everyman's life with for-profit health insurance here.

Death Panels

OK, as I have said before, I Am Not A Lawyer, I just read stuff they do.

So, apparently according to Betsy McCoughey (pronounced McCoy, May God Rest DeForrest Kelly's Tortured Soul) the reason to fear the 'end of life' consultation provisions of H R 3200 (Link is to the actual text of the bill in PDF format, it will require a bit of bandwidth to load....) is because Medicare reimbursement for doctors is tied to performance criteria and how many "Advanced Care Planning Consultations" a doctor has with their patients and how many actual "advanced directives" are produced, and of couse, are followed in the event they become operative will be part of the criteria. So of course, since their payment rates are involved, doctors are incentivized to make every patient have an end of life consultation and since the end of life consultation must include (yep, they said what it must include) discussion of "artificially administered nutrition and hydration" which is of course so horrible, we'll all immediately sign off on not receiving any of that and agree to die gracefully, thereby saving everybody a lot of money, it's MANDATORY, not VOLUNTARY. Uhmm, that's her argument, I don't get it so I bet I didn't state it right.

But thanks be to Google is your friend, here's what it actually says on Pp 431-432:

24 (A) IN GENERAL.—For purposes of re-
25 porting data on quality measures for covered
431 •HR 3200 IH

1 professional services furnished during 2011 and
2 any subsequent year, to the extent that meas-
3 ures are available, the Secretary shall include
4 quality measures on end of life care and ad-
5 vanced care planning that have been adopted or
6 endorsed by a consensus-based organization, if
7 appropriate. Such measures shall measure both
8 the creation of and adherence to orders for life
9 sustaining treatment.
432 •HR 3200 IH

Yes, End of Life orders defined in the bill include orders for using 'Life Sustaining Treatment" as well as withdrawal of same. You decide and the doctor gets to follow your orders. He just has to go through a prescribed list of things to talk about with you

1 ‘‘(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of
2 orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar
3 orders, which shall include—

a whole bunch of things listed on pages 426 through 428. You can go read it, Google (and my link) is your friend.

If you want (and can afford the copays and deductibles without bankrupting your family) you can demand that heroic measures be taken until a physician is willing to say you are dead, dead, dead, beyond any hope of resuscitation of any kind with any medical technology available in any hospital they can move you to without you being made dead, dead, dead, beyond any hope of resuscitation. And the doctor's performance criteria (on which 5 percent IIRC of his reimbursement hinges) is "Did the directive get followed?"

Ok, so they're reaching to say government doctors will decide when to pull the plug on Grandma. Now you know it, too.

Ask yourself. "Why do they make this s.... (stuff) up?" Do you suppose it's maybe because they haven't got any other arguments? Any other arguments at all? This one reeks of desperation.

Of course, it worked in 1994....

On September 30, 1993, the last day of Hillary Clinton's congressional committee testimony, The Wall Street Journal published an op-ed by McCaughey, who said she had read and reread the 239-page draft health care reform plan and concluded that the plan differed markedly from the Clinton White House's public statements and that the plan would in her opinion have "devastating consequences."

Yes, just this sort of devastating consequences. Only it's a little harder to carry the lie when any of us can just download the bill and read it ourselves. Yep, Google is your friend. Unless it's not.;o)

Food for thought

First and foremost, the purpose of the public option in health care reform is to keep the insurance companies honest. Really, nothing else. Does anybody, anybody at all, actually think the insurance companies are honest?

Face/Palm

I'm beginning to wonder if truth has anything at all to do with her worldview:

The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.

Sarah Palin on her Facebook page 08/07/09

Such a system would, indeed, be evil. But nothing in ANY of the proposals under discussion actually resembles this, or even could be stretched into anything that could possibly morph into something like this. And no one making these arguments can point to anything in any proposal that actually would come to this. So why isn't she demanding proof of such allegations when people suggest them to her? Shouldn't she be pointing this out for what it really is, a baseless lie? Can she really believe it? How stupid is she? Worse, how stupid are the people who are listening to her?

Face/Palm

Cash for Clunkers

So, I'd like to get $4500 to trade in one of my old cars on a new model, but there's a problem:

The trade-in has to get less than 18 MPG. In my lifetime as a driver, I've never bought a vehicle that got less than 20 MPG. And wouldn't.

Nice to know that common sense is worth nothing.... :o(

Still mystified today

Quoting myself....

I just don't get why people don't seem to get some things that are blindingly obvious to me. For example, it seems blindingly obvious to me that there are some things that profit incentives are just not suitable for supplying.

If making a profit is the only suitable incentive, where services are not profitable, they will not be provided. The classic example is rural electrical services. While it is wildly profitable to provide electrical services (or rail services or phone services) where populations are dense making provisioning relatively inexpensive, it is unprofitable to provide the same service where populations are not dense which makes provisioning relatively expensive. The only solution is to provide incentives and mandates from governmental entities which spread the higher cost of provisioning for rural areas to the lower cost urban areas. Historically, this is what happened with railroads, then electricity, then telephones. The public mandated these actions because it was recognized that it would benefit the entire country for everyone to have these basic services.

So why isn't it just as obvious to anybody with brain cells that since the profitable way to provide health insurance is to only provide it to those who aren't sick, a private health insurance company out to make a profit will make every effort to exclude anyone who is actually sick or might get sick, in other words, anybody who might actually NEED it.

IF you accept that everybody should have health insurance because they might need it and SINCE it can be mathematically proven that insuring the entire population is the least cost per person way to provide insurance THEN it follows that the profit incentive cannot accomplish the goal. Therefore, government intervention of a time-honored type (equalize profit opportunity for provisioning low profit or actual loss making service areas using tax dollars or other government policy, remember, we did the exact same thing for railroads, electricity and telephone services) is required.

But when you design your program, keep in mind the goal is to PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR EVERYONE, not guarantee profits for the insurance industry, 'cause you can bet the insurance industry will be in there pitching for anything that lets them make a bigger profit. The voter's best choice is for the program that comes closest to providing universal coverage as that will spread the cost widest and result in the lowest cost per capita. So why do voters keep buying the nonsense that private health insurance is better? Logically and empirically that's just false.

Ask yourself this question. Why have so many large entities such as municipalities, school districts, large corporations and even states chosen to self-insure various risks? Because all insurance is just a bookie's bet that your insurance premiums will exceed your insurance claims and THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS. If you are big enough, better to be the house yourself and save the difference.

May 8, 2008

Thank you, stillidealistic at Talking Points Memo

Wake Up Liberal Christians!
June 6, 2009, 3:12PM

Being a Christian around here can, at times, be a pretty humbling experience. For the most part I feel like most of you regulars accept me as being a little different than the majority of Christians you know. I have good relationships with many here who are atheists or agnostics. Religion (or lack thereof) doesn't get in the way of our friendship or political discussions. I appreciate very much those who have taken the time to get to know me, and who accept me for the flawed, but "anxious to learn and improve" person that I am.

I'm not terribly preachy, never in anyone's face about their lack of belief, and have been known to make an off-color joke now and then. When I hear the words, "If only more Christians were like you..." I feel like I'm living a life that Christ would approve of. He doesn't expect me to be perfect. He certainly doesn't want me to feel like I am better than anyone else. And He absolutely doesn't want me to claim to be a follower of His, then turn around and live a greedy, self-centered, hypocritical life that would make anyone think, "Jeez, if that's what Christians are like, forget it."

There are others who suspend any attempt to be "politically correct" and are either outright hostile towards Christians, or are extremely condescending/rude. I find it interesting coming from people who are supposed to be more tolerant than the "righties" they detest. Rarely is this behavior directed at me, personally, but it does happen from time to time. Mostly I don't take it personally. Every once in awhile I get my feelings hurt, but, that's my problem...thickens the skin a little...builds character. Anyway, my point is, hypocrisy abounds on both parts of the equation. I often wonder as I'm evaluating myself, and my thoughts and behavior, do those who lump all Christians together ever think about what THEY are doing and saying? Are they aware that by shoving us all together into the same box, they are engaging in discriminatory behavior?

Not all Christians are the same. There was some discussion here recently (my apologies to whoever's post it was...I didn't bookmark it and can't find it) about liberal Christians. I think many didn't even think there WAS such a thing. The Christian movement has been hijacked by the vocal right-wing extremists to the point that when you say "Christian" many, if not most, think of Hannity and Rush and Sarah and their ilk, and don't even realize that they are only part of the story.

Whose fault is that? I would say it was the fault of liberal Christians. We have not stood up and demanded to be counted. We have not stood up and said "Enough already!" We have allowed our religion to be co-opted by the fringe. We have not held our religious "leader's" feet to the fire by DEMANDING that they practice the teachings of Jesus. We have stood by pretty much silently, thus giving tacit approval to their misrepresenting the truth lying, their hypocrisy in attempting to block universal health care while claiming to be their brother's keepers, their rabid insistence that abortion is murder, yet apparently having no problem with those who murder abortion providers or bomb their facilities, or condone torture or kill thousands of innocents, in addition to our own children, in a war that we did not HAVE to wage...

When did the Ten Commandments become the Ten Suggestions, or worse yet, multiple choice...pick which ones you want to follow?

In a recent comment I said that if I were searching for a religion to follow now, I don't know that Christianity would get a second look from me. The face of Christianity today is one of hate. Of dishonesty. Of greed. Of hypocrisy. Of exclusion. This is NOT the religion that I signed onto. I despise that we have let this happen.

As far as I'm concerned, you know a Christian by his/her actions.

But, there is a divide in the Christian Church concerning the matter of being saved. Some say once saved, always saved, others say you can lose your salvation by the way you live your life. We are never going to know for sure until we meet our maker face to face.

Perhaps those who believe once saved, always saved, think that just because they have asked Jesus into their hearts, they can now do whatever they want...they have their ticket to Heaven, so whatever they do now, they are covered.

But I contend that you can, indeed, lose your salvation through your actions, and these right-wing whackos that go around spreading lies, tearing people down, murdering abortion providers, denying people the most basic of human rights (i.e. health care) and generally behave in a manner that I am SURE makes our Lord cringe had better start doing some serious soul searching. And if they are smart, they'll err in favor of believing they CAN lose their salvation, because it may help them to think twice before acting the way they act. We are told by our Lord that we are to do NOTHING that will cause another to stumble in their faith. If we, as a group, behave in ways that bring disdain on our Lord, are we not causing them to stumble? Do we not have an OBLIGATION to behave in a way that brings glory, not ridicule to our Lord?
I love my Lord with all my heart, and the poor behavior of my fellow Christians is NEVER going to change that. But those of us who believe that the vocal minority of whacko Christians are ruining Christianity, have an obligation to change what is happening. So "WAKE UP LIBERAL CHRISTIANS!" To do any less is to agree with what they are doing. And then we have to be willing to accept responsibility for what they have done.

Question for the day.

How many years has it been since there was a left wing terrorist killing in the US?

Digby at Hullabaloo

Good question. Anybody have an answer?

The Charlotte, South Carolina Dragon Boat Festival, 2008.

The chances of this celebration of multiple cultures happening in these girls' (or parent's or grandparent's) home country is vanishingly remote, but it happens here, every year and everybody has a great time. (There's a lovely website, lovingly updated.) That is why everybody wants to come here and not stay there. No damage is done to our culture by celebrating others, and more fun is had by all....

Ever been to a Cinco De Mayo celebration in the US? That's why closing the borders or limiting immigration is stupid. Not misguided, not poor policy, just plain stupid. It doesn't do what you want it to do, because the problem you identify isn't a problem, it's a virtue.

Tell me how this much fun is a bad thing. Just try.

GameQuest 2009

GameQuest 2009. An interesting venue, the Vancouver WA, USA Hilton convention center had a boatload of space and about 900 attendees. It's mostly board games and board games that include miniatures. My buddies and I got in a couple of games with the Anniversary Edition of Axis and Allies, but I put on a Wings of War scrum from 1:00 to 5:00 PM on Saturday and got 9 players including a husband and wife that brought their own planes.... There seems to have been a bit of grudge involved, but husband (flying Goring's white plane) drew the explosion card for his first damage card, then drew it again after a couple exchanges with a fresh plane. Not a good night to be the husband, I think. The tweener flew the last plane shot out of the sky, but a couple of the older guys flew off the field intact.




The wife gets caught by herself in a Series III Nieuport but husband's Goring get's blowed up and she wiggles for while but eventually succumbed to the firepower from the combined Richthofen's (Series I Albatross DIII and Series II Roland CII).

Father and son flew till shot down then went to play some other game, leaving seven players still in. Husband gave up on Goring and came back for a third try in one of my planes.... We started with two Goring's at either end of the table.

The rivers and roads are from WizardCraft out of Coeur d'Alene, ID US sold ready to play. The craters are from Stonehouse Miniatures out of Portland, resin castings that I painted and decorated. They are all basically intended for 15mm minis, but it makes a more interesting table than featureless felt.... ;o)

Trapped.....

So, the big pre-WWI naval campaign had it's first battle last night. All of South America plus some European Allies taking on the US over the barely averted crisis in Mexico at Vera Cruz in 1914. The Allied fleets were called to rendezvous at Caracas, Venezuela, so the Spanish and Germans (under my command) went there. The Germans went to tweak American noses and as the Spanish/Portuguese fleet went to relocate, American contacts were reported to the north. My threat estimate was a maximum of seven American dreadnaughts (to my three) so we sallied with light recon elements to locate the Americans and break east to the allied Brazilian and Argentinean fleets.

The Portugese made first contact, engaging an American cruiser line but finding a line of battleships behind it. Then another line of battleships appear to the west, spotted by the Spanish cruisers...... Eleven battleships, not seven, plus several large armored cruisers....


We make smoke and turn east. The Western American battleline sinks my cruisers one by one as the run for the destroyer screen, the Eastern American Battle line doubles back to break through the smoke screen and engage my dreadnaughts just clearing the harbor....


But when the Americans stick their nose through the smoke screen it gets bit off. First a torpedo run by the modern destroyers forces the Americans to break their line and a lucky torpedo hit damages Louisiana. As Kentucky clears the smoke, the Spanish dreadnaughts and the Caracas fort smash and sink it. The destroyers dashing between the American battleships are obliterated by heavy gunfire.

Louisiana and Missouri break West and the antique Spanish destroyers with their short range torpedoes break through their smoke screen for a perfect run on them. Both ships soak up multiple torpedoes and two of the Spanish destroyers escape unscathed....

Kentucky is sinking and Louisiana and Missouri were last seen limping northwest. Without the modern destroyers, the smoke screen to the north disappated and the heavies engaged. Wisconsin was battered out of the line, Maine was hammered by a combined salvo and the Spaniards appeared unfased to the Americans. After that unpleasantness, the Yankee battlelines combined and ducked behind their own smokescreens, but the only photos I have are out of focus. We left the table their on acount of 2:00 AM, so I'll take the tripod next time and get starting photos when action recommences.

It Can't Be Said Better

I have to say that I never really got Republican policy and have never understood how anyone with a lick of sense and/or a college education could fall for it, but the Republican nightmare just keeps getting worse and worse:

Let's just stipulate DC Republicans are simply not part of the discussion when it comes to repairing the US economy or arresting our slide into deep economic misery. And any reporters who aren't clear about this are just lying to their readers or viewers. The latest Republican plan, in the face of today's new spike in unemployment, is a freeze on federal spending. I'm not even sure it's fair to say that this is a replay of the disastrous decisions that magnified the Great Depression between 1929 and 1933. It's more a parody of it. When the crisis is a rapid and catastrophic drop off in demand, you handcuff the one force that can create demand (i.e., the federal government) in the throes of the contraction. That's insane. Levels of stimulus are a decent question. Intensifying the contraction is just insane and frankly a joke. It's time to recognize that the only debate here is happening among Democrats and sundry non-affiliated sane people. The leaders of the GOP are simply not part of the conversation.

--Josh Marshall

It Can't be Said Better

Yes, it is indisputable that the New Deal dragged the United States out of the Great Depression. But only if you can count.

Art

Kimberlyn's latest work, a combination of old and new. The original colored pencil sketch was scanned into the computer. Using the GIMP (the Graphics Image Manipulation Program), an open source image editor, she converted it to a line drawing then inked it layer by layer with the coloring tools the GIMP provides. The text was added with Picasa, a simple photo editor, also open source, supported by Google. I post it here for everybody, 'cause she never posts on her own blog anymore....

Parental fear moment, I think she's getting psyched for the Rave at RadCon. She had too much fun at SpoCon....

It can't be said better, 01/20/09

"We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States of America. 01/20/09

YEssss! Yes, yes, yes!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/1/9/22401/59477/76/680315

Annual Wooden Ships and Iron Men

War Eagles has an annual Wooden Ships and Iron Men bash on New Year's Day. Last years report is here.

This year's battle is based on the historical events that inspired some of the Horatio Hornblower novels, the Battle of Algeciras. In the first phase, the British lost a ship of the line, the first in nearly a century and so a real scandal, at Algeciras Bay. The French attempted to move the prize, with a reinforced French battle line plus a Spanish fleet to Cadiz. The British launched everything that could be readied from Gibraltar (just across the straights from Algeciras) including the ships that had been knocked about in the first phase. The British intercept at dawn outside Cadiz. (click on the photo for enlarged view)


The French admiral is tasked to make port safely, with the British prize, Hannibal. The Spanish commander is tasked to make port safely. The British admiral must retake the Hannibal to salvage his honor and received orders to prevent a junction of the French and Spanish fleets at all costs.

The intercept by the Superb missed it's goal and trailed the prize until ultimately achieving the recapture. The main French fleet sailed easily into Cadiz, since the British admiral ignored them, focusing on retaking the Hannibal.



The British frigate next to the red die managed a rake on the French tow ship, slowing it for the Superb to overtake and guaranteeing that the British admiral can head reach the tow ship and the prize. A follow on by a brig left the tow ship with a mast over the port side masking it's guns and no longer able to sail into the wind at all.

But a timely change in the wind changes things.


At the bottom we see the fate of a Spanish frigate that came out of Cadiz harbor expecting gunboats to follow, but only one did. Sailing straight into the three British ships of the line, it is a dismasted and a burning hulk that ultimately exploded between the second and third ships doing some small sail and hull damage, temporarily impairing the battle line as fires were put out all over the two ships. Above is the British brig that knocked down a mast on the French SOL towing the Hannibal and bringing it to a stop. Unfortunately, the wind change left it trapped by a French frigate and schooner and overwhelmed.

By the time the battle line closed to firing range, the fires were out and the line dished out a pounding that blew up the French tow ship in a single round. Some additional damage was done to Superb which was closing to board and the Hannibal which remained in proximity.



For reasons sufficient to the British Admiral in temporary command, (I had to leave for a RadCon committee meeting) the Spanish were allowed a negotiated free pass into Cadiz and no further action took place. IMO, the main British line should rake the leading Spanish ship, sail down the starboad side of the Spanish line, penetrating it at some point and scattering the Spaniards. The two additional British SOL's approaching should then have opportunities for additional actions and at the least, the Spanish fleet would get knocked about by the superior British gunnery and most likely a prize or two could be taken. The relatively weak Spanish gunnery would likely do some damage, but it seems unlikely to me that they would score any substantial success. I invite comment. (click on the comments button and type your thoughts)